FCC on wifi at hotel

Wed Feb 28 22:18:24 UTC 2007

On Feb 28, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Steve Meuse wrote:

>
> It's about revenue recovery. If you provide your own free wifi,  
> they are losing potential business. It's usually part of the  
> negotiation with the Hotel.
>

Yes, some Hotels will indeed want "revenue recovery" for this - they  
will typically start at the
rental rate per person x the number of attendees x number of days,  
which could be $ 10K USD per day or more for a 1000 person meeting.  
You may or may not be able to negotiate it down; I think that in the  
IETF experience the
"negotiate it down" factor has ranged from not at all to 100%.

But, since it is part of the contract, they can certainly enforce  
whatever is agreed to.

Regards
Marshall

> -Steve
>
>
> On 2/28/07, Carl Karsten <carl at personnelware.com> wrote:
> me again.
>
> So wifi at pycon 07 was 'better than 06' witch I hear was a  
> complete disaster.
> More on 07's coming soon.
>
> Now we are talking about wifi at pycon 08, which will be at a  
> different hotel
> (Crown Plaza in Rosemont, IL) and the question came up: Can the  
> hotel actively
> prevent us from using our own wifi?
>
> _maney: although - wasn't the hotel stuck on "our wifi or no wifi"  
> at last report?
>
> CarlFK: only the FCC can restrict radio
>
> tpollari: it's their network and their power the FCC has no legal  
> right to that.
> and no, you show me where they do.  I'm not wasting my day with  
> that tripe --
> the caselaw you're likely thinking of has to do with an airline and  
> an airport
> and the airline's lounge, in which case they're paying for the  
> power and paying
> for their bandwidth from a provider that's not the airport. We're not.
>
> I know that there are all sorts of factors, and just cuz the FCC  
> says boo isn't
> the end of the story, but i don't even know what the FCC's position  
> on this is.
>   google gave me many hits, and after looking at 10 or so I decided  
> to look
> elsewhere.
>
> Carl K
>
>
>
> -- 
>
> -Steve