botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf

Sun Feb 18 01:46:42 UTC 2007

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Sean Donelan wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2007, Gadi Evron wrote:
> > Yes, but that is because the successful ISPs currently often implement
> > their own if they have the resources and R&D power. The really big ones
> > have it automated, the small ones have it limited to be "activated by an
> > abuse desk person".
> 
> And I also know "many" ISPs that developed home-grown systems and had to
> abandoned them due to various problems.
> 
> Until you understand the differences and why various attempts haven't
> worked, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes; and unlikely to
> be successfull beyond a few limited environments.

Agreed. Do you have any of these lessons you can share?

> Is there a significant difference between the "many" ISPs implementing
> walled gardens and other ISPs as far as infection rates?
> 

Yes.