botnets: web servers, end-systems and Vint Cerf
J. Oquendo
sil at infiltrated.net
Fri Feb 16 18:41:45 UTC 2007
michael.dillon at bt.com wrote:
>
> You misunderstand. The problem of securing machines *IS* solved. It is
> possible. It is regularly done with servers connected to the Internet.
> There is no *COMPUTING* problem or technical problem.
> The problem of the 100 million machines is a social or business problem.
> We know how they can be secured, but the solution is not being
> implemented.
>
> --Michael Dillon
>
After all these years, I'm still surprised a consortium of ISP's haven't
figured out a way to do something a-la Packet Fence for their clients
where - whenever an infected machine is detected after logging in, that
machine is thrown into say a VLAN with instructions on how to clean
their machines before they're allowed to go further and stay online. If
you ask me, traffic providers (NSP's/NAP's) and ISP's don't mind this
garbage coming out of their networks, if they did they'd actually ban
together and do something about it. Its obvious those charging for
traffic will say little. Minimized traffic means minimized revenue. All
I see is "No we despise that kind of traffic" along with a shrug and
nothing being done about it. I'm sure if some legislative body somewhere
started levying fines against providers, the net would be a cleaner
place. For comments on 100 million infected machines... Doubtable.
Anyone can play fuzzy math games, heck I just strangely figured out that
MS is costing me an arm and a leg!
http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/msg04755.html
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