RBL for bots?
Gadi Evron
ge at linuxbox.org
Fri Feb 16 01:02:12 UTC 2007
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:30:34 EST, Drew Weaver said:
>
> > Has anyone created an RBL, much like (possibly) the BOGON list which
> > includes the IP addresses of hosts which seem to be "infected" and are
> > attempting to brute-force SSH/HTTP, etc?
No BL for bots other than SMTP zombies quite yet.
There is one for SSH brute forcing, although home-made.. J. Will repond on
his own...
> > It would be fairly easy to setup a dozen or more honeypots and examine
> > the logs in order to create an initial list.
>
> A large percentage of those bots are in DHCP'ed cable/dsl blocks. As such,
> there's 2 questions:
Quite right, which is why ...
> 1) How important is it that you not false-positive an IP that's listed because
> some *previous* owner of the address was pwned?
As in, dynamic ranges BL.
> 2) How important is it that you even accept connections from *anywhere* in
> that DHCP block?
Or maybe the cool concept of white-listing known senders? :)
> (Note that there *are* fairly good RBL's of DHCP/dsl/cable blocks out there.
> So it really *is* a question of why those aren't suitable for use in your
> application...)
Many of them are SMTP-based only. IP reputation is very limited still.
Now, all that said, back on "most are broadband users" - no longer
true. Many bots (especially in spam) are now web servers.
Gadi.
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