Seeking UUNET/Level3 help re packet loss between Comcast & Onvoy customers

Rich Graves rgraves at carleton.edu
Fri Aug 24 22:38:09 UTC 2007


On August 2, my Craig D. Rice from stolaf.edu posted Re: Seeking Comcast Contact: need to troubleshoot packet loss and/or asymmetric routing issue between Comcast & Onvoy.

A good Comcast contact (thanks!) and some interesting (but, as it turns out, irrelevant) discussion of ICMP and PMTU ensued.

Current situation:

We now know that all packets from all Comcast ranges make it to Carleton (137.22/16) and St Olaf (130.71/16) just fine. But we are seeing 30-80% packet loss on the paths (multiple) from both Carleton and St Olaf to certain Comcast ranges only. The size of the packets does not seem to matter. We pursued the PMTU wild goose, and a few others, based on the observation that SYNs appeared to get through, but data packets did not. In reality, multiple SYNs are also being lost.

Recently, we observed that packets sent from the interior IP address of our border router, 137.22.69.254, are able to get to Comcast fine. But traffic sent from any other source IP address in 137.22/16 fails.

Outbound traceroutes (Carleton to Comcast) show that the "good" networks take an AT&T outbound hop, while the "bad" networks go through level3. Inbound traceroutes (Comcast to Carleton) always seem to go through AT&T.

               137.22.69.254      137.22.69.253
71.63.168.1    good (level3)       BAD (level3)
71.63.244.1    good (level3)       BAD (level3)
74.19.4.1        good (AT&T)        good (AT&T)

Wild card: It might be relevant that Carleton was previously a UUNET customer, and that 137.22.69.254 was an IP address known to UUNET as a demarc point to be monitored. Maybe someone at UUNET failed to clear some filters some years ago, when we shut off our old T1.

Complications: Onvoy has agreed to be sold to Zayo Bandwidth, http://www.startribune.com/154/story/1378026.html; the technician with whom we are working at Onvoy appears to be proud of his A+ certification; and we are in a semi-rural market with no short-term alternative for Internet service, and freshmen arriving in one week. Help!
 
Here's how St Olaf sees the world. 71.63.168.1 is a "bad" address, > 50% packet loss. 73.112.232.1 is a "good" address, 0% loss.

cisco7200#show ip bgp sum
BGP router identifier 130.71.196.25, local AS number 21951
BGP table version is 31337554, main routing table version 31337554
224927 network entries using 26316459 bytes of memory
245363 path entries using 12758876 bytes of memory
44821/40648 BGP path/bestpath attribute entries using 5557804 bytes of memory
37918 BGP AS-PATH entries using 1026100 bytes of memory
516 BGP community entries using 18954 bytes of memory
1 BGP extended community entries using 24 bytes of memory
0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
BGP using 45678217 total bytes of memory
11380 received paths for inbound soft reconfiguration
BGP activity 1786406/1561479 prefixes, 3731508/3486145 paths, scan interval
60 secs

Neighbor        V    AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down  State/PfxRcd
137.192.32.173  4  5006 9156558 2056473 31337549    0    0 23w6d      222602
192.42.152.218  4    57 3531028  478950 31337541    0    0 1d10h       11380


cisco7200#show ip bgp neighbors 137.192.32.173 routes | include 13367
*  24.31.0.0/19     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.118.0.0/18    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*  24.118.0.0/16    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.118.64.0/18   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.118.128.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.118.160.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.118.192.0/18  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.131.128.0/18  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.245.0.0/19    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  24.245.0.0/18    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 24.245.32.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  24.245.64.0/20   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 66.41.0.0/18     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*  66.41.0.0/16     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 66.41.64.0/18    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 66.41.128.0/18   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 66.41.192.0/18   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 67.178.48.0/23   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*  67.190.192.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  67.190.224.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.86.46.0/24    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.86.200.0/23   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.86.232.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.87.14.0/24    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.87.174.0/23   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 68.87.176.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  69.180.128.0/18  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.240.52.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.240.56.0/24   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.240.212.0/23  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.240.244.0/24  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.240.245.0/24  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.241.77.0/24   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 69.241.114.0/24  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  70.89.196.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*  70.89.200.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 70.90.76.0/22    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 70.91.176.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 71.63.128.0/17   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*  71.193.64.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 71.195.0.0/18    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 73.112.0.0/14    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 73.127.0.0/16    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 73.205.0.0/16    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 73.236.0.0/15    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.18.0.0/20     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.19.0.0/19     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.24.192.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.30.0.0/18     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.31.224.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.93.24.0/22    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.94.80.0/21    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.95.64.0/22    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.95.70.0/23    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.95.100.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.95.140.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.146.192.0/18  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 74.147.224.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.72.0.0/17     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.72.0.0/15     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.72.128.0/17   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.73.0.0/17     137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.73.128.0/17   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.144.36.0/22   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 75.146.32.0/20   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.17.128.0/17   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.113.128.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.113.160.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.113.192.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.113.224.0/19  137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.133.0.0/19    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.133.0.0/17    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 3549 3356
13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.133.32.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.133.64.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.133.96.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.154.0.0/19    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.154.0.0/17    137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.154.32.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.154.64.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 76.154.96.0/19   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 13367 i
*> 209.162.0.0/18   137.192.32.173                         0 5006 7018 13367
13367 13367 13367 i
cisco7200#show ip bgp neighbors 192.42.152.218  routes | include 13367
*> 24.31.0.0/19     192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 24.118.0.0/16    192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 24.245.0.0/18    192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 24.245.64.0/20   192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 66.41.0.0/16     192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 67.190.192.0/19  192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 67.190.224.0/19  192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 69.180.128.0/18  192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 70.89.196.0/22   192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 70.89.200.0/22   192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
*> 71.193.64.0/19   192.42.152.218                110      0 57 13367 i
cisco7200#sho ip bgp 71.63.168.1
BGP routing table entry for 71.63.128.0/17, version 31179174
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
   Not advertised to any peer
   5006 3549 3356 13367 13367 13367 13367
     137.192.32.173 from 137.192.32.173 (172.30.0.5)
       Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
       Community: 328073238
cisco7200#sho ip bgp 73.112.232.1
BGP routing table entry for 73.112.0.0/14, version 31179171
Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
   Not advertised to any peer
   5006 3549 3356 13367 13367 13367 13367
     137.192.32.173 from 137.192.32.173 (172.30.0.5)
       Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
       Community: 328073238
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Rich Graves http://claimid.com/rcgraves
Carleton.edu Sr UNIX and Security Admin
CMC135: 507-646-7079 Cell: 952-292-6529




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