Cogent latency / congestion

Kevin Oberman oberman at
Mon Aug 20 23:31:56 UTC 2007

> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:17:21 -0400
> From: Deepak Jain <deepak at>
> > If someone sabotages a rail to stop a train and the derailment takes out
> > the fiber that is buried in the right-of-way, is that unintentional
> > sabotage? At least of the fiber?
> That's not sabotage at all.
> As it relates to the fiber, its not "deliberately and maliciously 
> destroying [fiber]"... unless the goal was to cause a derailment which 
> hurt the train operator both from the operation of the train and 
> subsequent revenues they might lose from fiber operations along the same
> right-of-way -- then *that* would be sabotage.
> In the case you outlined above, barring other motivations, the fiber 
> would be "collateral damage".
> That said, Cogent's page says nothing about sabotage 
> ( and I can't find the reference on teliasonera's 
> page.... Link please?

Too many people missed the emoticon. Clearly the fiber damage in the
case I gave was collateral damage. It would have been sabotage on the
rail line and the derailed train.
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
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