large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.
Jason J. W. Williams
williamsjj at digitar.com
Tue Aug 7 18:19:45 UTC 2007
I'm not prepared to call it stupid, but you're right it can cause issues.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Stahl <don at calis.blacksun.org>
To: Jason J. W. Williams
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu>; John Levine <johnl at iecc.com>; nanog at nanog.org <nanog at nanog.org>
Sent: Tue Aug 07 12:14:11 2007
Subject: RE: large organization nameservers sending icmp packets to dns servers.
> All things being equal (which they're usually not) you could use the ACK
> response time of the TCP handshake if they've got TCP DNS resolution
> available. Though again most don't for security reasons...
Then most are incredibly stupid.
Several anti DoS utilities force unknown hosts to initiate a query via
TCP in order to be whitelisted. If the host can't perform a TCP query then
they get blacklisted.
In addition, any UDP truncated response needs to be retried via TCP-
blocking it would cause a variety of problems.
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