Kremen's Buddy?

andrew2 at andrew2 at
Tue Sep 12 19:10:39 UTC 2006

owner-nanog at wrote:

> Once this subject took off on nanog, I have been
> oversaturated with people trying to "sell" me ip space.  I
> have had offers for several /16's for 10,000.00 each that are
> no longer in use by the companies who "own" lol them.  

It seems to me that this nicely illustrates a major problem with the
current system.  Here we have large blocks of IP space that, by their
own rules, ARIN should take back.  It all sounds nice on paper, but
clearly there is a hole in the system whereby ARIN doesn't know and
apparently has no way of figuring out that the space is no longer in
use.  It makes me wonder just how much space like that there is out
there artifically increasing IP scarcity.  I don't know what the
solution is, but the way things currently work it seems like if you can
justify a block today, it's yours forever even if you stop actively
using it.  Maybe allowing for some kind of IP market would cut down on
that type of hoarding -- you would at the very least change the type of
value those subnets have.

Andrew Cruse

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