private ip addresses from ISP

Wed May 24 18:50:34 UTC 2006

On May 24, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com wrote:
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>
> So again, I ask the question: Is NANOG an appropriate
> forum to develop some best practices text that
> could be incorporated into service agreements and
> peering agreements by reference in the same way
> that a software licence incorporates the GPL
> by referring to it?

Ah, I think we all assumed you were kidding when you asked that!

While I think NANOG *should* be the appropriate forum, I don't really  
think it will be -- there are too many personal agendas -- getting  
the community to agree on *anything* these days appears to be a  
losing proposition....

I suspect that a post suggesting we replace IP with a piece of wet  
spaghetti would:
a: Get n replies agreeing
b: Get n replies disagreeing
c: Possibly generate a post that is trying to be useful.
d: A fish (not a fish anything, just a random posting not related to  
anything on topic)
e: Spawn a thread screaming "Troll"
f: Get 2n replies asking if that will run on vendor X
g: Get 2n replies suggesting that an alternate root / better SPAM  
detection  / would fix all our woes
h: Generate n^2 ad hominem attack threads.
i: Be sidetracked into a request for a contact for company Y
j: Get misinterpreted [supporting | blasting] someone's pet theory /  
idea / etc

Even the fairly simple question of whether a network should emit  
packets with RFC1918 sourced packets (a topic I am declining to  
comment on) exhibited many of the above. While I think having "some  
best practices text that could be incorporated into service  
agreements and peering agreements" would be great I suspect this  
isn't the forum to generate such a thing -- unless it looks like:

Best Common Practices (please circle appropriate field):

1: Interconnecting networks (agree to always) / (agree to never) /  
(agree to sometimes)  emit packets with RFC1918 addresses
2: Interconnecting networks ( shall)  / (shall not ) run some form of  
RPF
3: Interconnecting networks (will) / (won't) / (might) randomly depeer
...
etc.

Having "some best practices text that could be incorporated into  
service agreements and peering agreements" would be great -- lets how  
about setting up a forum for this?

Warren (who is feeling very grumpy and cynical this morning -- and  
might take all the above back once the coffee sinks in)

>
> --Michael Dillon
>

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