shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)

Marshall Eubanks tme at
Fri Mar 3 20:37:11 UTC 2006

On Mar 3, 2006, at 5:55 AM, Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote:

> On 2 mar 2006, at 06.16, Kevin Day wrote:
>> No, I'm just trying to be practical here... Estimates of IPv4 pool  
>> exhaustion range from Mid 2008 (Tony Hain's ARIN presentation) to  
>> roughly 2012 (Geoff Huston's ARIN presentation). Sooner if a mad  
>> dash for space starts happening (or isn't happening already).
>> Does anyone here really believe that there is time for:
> So what I think we might need (that I wrote in an internet-draft  
> some years ago) is the following things in exactly this order :
> 0. PI space with an artifically high barrier on entry yet available  
> when needed (read cost+administration=LIR or equiv.).
> 1. Ducttape ala shim6
> 2. One of breakthrough in graph-theory or a completely new  
> addressing/routing paradigm. Most like the latter.

I will bet anyone reading this $ 20 USD right now that what will  
actually happen is
the development of a spot market in IPv4 address space.


> That will take us past IPv4 exhaustion+IPv6 initial deployment,  
> through wider uptake through to the 10-15 years from now when we  
> might have an idea of what 2 is. I used to believe that it would  
> take 10 years to deploy a standardised version of a stack change, I  
> must say I changing my mind and I am starting to agree with however  
> said that we just need to wait for the next <insert favourite OS>  
> major security hole+patch.
> - kurtis -

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