shim6 @ NANOG (forwarded note from John Payne)
thegameiam at yahoo.com
Thu Mar 2 12:56:44 UTC 2006
--- Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com wrote:
> > Resounding YES - I specifically DON'T want
> > to be able to make these decisions, but need to be
> > able to multihome.
> When I see comments like this I wonder whether
> understand what shim6 is all about. First of all,
> aren't YOUR hosts. They belong to somebody else. If
> are an access provider then these hosts belong to a
> that is paying you to carry packets. This customer
> pays another ISP for the same service and the hosts
> are making decisions about whether to use your
> or your competitors.
> If you are a hosting provider, then these hosts,
> by a third party, are making decisions about whether
> send you packets through one or another AS.
> Is there something inherently wrong with independent
> organizations deciding where to send their packets?
That's not the case I'm discussing - I'm talking about
the multihomed enterprise. From an access provider
point of view, Shim6 is no worse/better than the
various TE-fu devices which end customers use - it
makes predicting load a bit more difficult, but it's
just bits to be passed. From an enterprise POV I want
two or three decision points which I need to monitor
and manage, not 10,000.
> P.S. I don't believe that shim6 will ever succeed.
Neither do I.
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