anybody here from verizon's e-mail department?

Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.lists at
Wed Feb 22 17:53:47 UTC 2006

On 2/22/06, Christopher L. Morrow
<christopher.morrow at> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> >
> >
> message 2 on that page is interesting: (and apropos to previous threads)

Oh Yes.

And I do know that (U.Alabama at Birmingham) has had some smtp
redirection stuff that they've been doing for a while - or were doing
a few years ago, when I last discussed it with their postmaster, to
stop rootkitted *nix workstations and infected windows boxes spamming
out their network.

What they did struck me as quite interesting - still strikes me as
interesting from what I remember of it now 5 yrs later.  If someone
from uab is reading this and can describe it to nanog that'd be great.

As for broadband ISPs I think charter has been putting a walled garden
in place even though they, unlike aol, dont control the user client
etc.  Saw a preso about this at MAAWG in san diego last year.

Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists at

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