protocols that don't meet the need...

Jared Mauch jared at
Tue Feb 14 21:37:03 UTC 2006

	So, NANOG has worked in the past (eg: ARIN) at joint
meetings at a venue before, perhaps something similar would work.

	I find it interesting that NANOG and IETF are both in Dallas
about a month from each other and both parties likely navigated
the logistics issues of connectivity, etc.. for these hotels for
a slightly overlapping audience.

	Do people think something like the NANOG-ARIN would work for
NANOG-IETF?  That might allow cross-breeding/ROI/whatnot and value to
both communities.

	- jared

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 01:17:46PM -0800, Tony Hain wrote:
> I agree that attendance is not required, but it can help some discussions. 
> Given the logistical differences it would be much easier to schedule NANOG
> into a nearby hotel than to try to move the IETF around. For example this
> time if NANOG had been a month later it would have been in the same city yet
> different hotels. I understand that synchronized meetings it not trivial,
> but it is worth considering.
> Tony
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Valdis.Kletnieks at [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks at]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:10 PM
> > To: Tony Hain
> > Cc: nanog at
> > Subject: Re: protocols that don't meet the need...
> > 
> > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:35:19 PST, Tony Hain said:
> > > Rather than sit back and complain about the results, why not try to
> > > synchronize meeting times. Not necessarily hotels, but within a
> > reasonable
> > > distance of each other so the issue about ROI for the trip can be
> > mitigated.
> > 
> > The IETF apparently has some major scheduling problems as it is, because
> > there
> > are very few venues that can handle the number of people that show up
> > *and*
> > have the right mix of large rooms and many smaller break-out rooms.
> > Trying to get
> > it into a hotel opposite a NANOG would just exacerbate the problem.
> > 
> > And there's nothing stopping NANOG types from joining an IETF working
> > group and
> > participating via e-mail - there's a large number of people who have
> > contributed
> > to the IETF process and never actually been sighted at an IETF meeting.

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