protocols that don't meet the need...

Tony Hain alh-ietf at
Tue Feb 14 21:08:23 UTC 2006

I am not going to speak for the IETF, but why would they? Their meetings are
already open, and to be globally fair the proposed coordinators would have
to attend 3-5 extra meetings a year to cover all the ops groups.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eastgard, Tom [mailto:tom.eastgard at]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 1:01 PM
> To: Tony Hain; nanog at
> Subject: RE: protocols that don't meet the need...
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Hain [mailto:alh-ietf at]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:35 PM
> > To: nanog at
> > Subject: protocols that don't meet the need...
> >
> >
> > A thought I had on the plane last night about the disconnect
> > between the NANOG and IETF community which leaves protocol
> > development to run open-loop.
> >
> > Rather than sit back and complain about the results, why not
> > try to synchronize meeting times. Not necessarily hotels, but
> > within a reasonable distance of each other so the issue about
> > ROI for the trip can be mitigated.
> > This will mean that people who regularly attend both will
> > have overlap issues, but if one meeting every year or two is
> > joint there is an opportunity for those who can't justify the
> > extra trips to at least have some feedback to try and close
> > the loop on protocol design.
> Would it make sense to ask IETF to provide a focal or coordinate(s?) to
> NANOG who would host a BOF(s?) on IETF issues --- not to debate, explain
> or
> work them but to board the issues and concerns of the operating community?
> Point being to provide a lightly structured and cost effective mechanism
> for
> operators to give feedback without having to attend three more meetings
> per
> year?
> T. Eastgard

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