SORBS Contact

Thu Aug 10 05:16:39 UTC 2006

On 8/10/06, Allan Poindexter <apoindex at aoc.nrao.edu> wrote:
>   Todd> There are simple solutions to this.  They do work in spite of
>   Todd> the moanings of the few who have been mistakenly blocked.
>
> So it is OK so long as we only defame a few people and potentially
> ruin their lives?

That's quite a stretch there, bub.  "Defame" means that it is somehow
misrepresented as true, factual information.  Publicly accessible (and
non-mandatory) blacklists are opinions, not portrayed as fact by any
stretch of the imagination.

>   Todd> In the meantime my patience with email "lost" in the sea of
>   Todd> spam not blocked by blacklists, etc. is growing thin.
>
> Hmm.  Let me think a minute.  Nope not buying it.

If your inbound mail isn't at least 30% spam (or blocked spam
attempts) these days, then you haven't been using the Internet long
enough.  I have better things to do than pass that 30% of mail
traffic.  The spam can FOAD as far as I care, and if there is a
problem of a mistake with something improperly blocked, it is fixable
(and takes a lot less maintenance time than dealing with the spam
tsunami).

Sorry, but those of us who have actually done this sort of thing for a
living for a while know quite well why not every network can implement
bayes-ish "Report Spam" button schemes (which are inaccurate anyhow,
as you've pointed out), nor simply present all actual spam to the
users (who would be flooded with well more than 30% in some cases --
there are in-use mailboxes on systems I've managed that would be above
99% spam if the spew weren't blocked at the gate).

It's either lack of industry experience on your part, or you're yet
another troll for a "list renter" or bulker -- which is it?  Based on
earlier statements of yours, I would give you the benefit of the doubt
and assume the former.  However, you just had to pull out the "defame"
word in a completely invalid grammatical and legal context, so I'm
starting to hedge bets on the latter.

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-- Todd Vierling <tv at duh.org> <tv at pobox.com> <todd at vierling.name>