SORBS Contact

Michael Nicks mtnicks at kanren.net
Wed Aug 9 18:39:23 UTC 2006


Don't forget racketeering.

"A person who commits crimes such as extortion, loansharking, bribery, 
and obstruction of justice in furtherance of illegal business activities."

I think most network operators have learned about the ultra-liberal 
listing activities of RBLs these days.

-Michael

-- 
Michael Nicks
Network Engineer
KanREN
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m: +1-913-378-6516

Dean Anderson wrote:
> SORBS is a well-known abusive/defamatory blacklist.  In the US, that 
> violates a number of state and federal laws:
> 
> 	1. defamation
> 	2. illegal group boycott in violation of antitrust act
> 	3. (usually) unauthorized blocking by ISP in violation of its
> 		contract with its customer, which is a violation of the 
> 		electronic communications privacy act.
> 	4. There are frequently state laws that apply to electronic 
> 		communications that are even more broad.
> 
> You _can_ make the US based ISP not use SORBS. Most ISPs know better,
> already.
> 
> 		--Dean
> 
> 
> See also http://www.iadl.org.
> 
> 		--Dean
> 
> On Mon, 7 Aug 2006, Brian Boles wrote:
>> Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist if they are on here....
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Stefan Hegger wrote:
>> We have the same problem. We are blacklisted and I filled out the webform. I 
>> got an email regarding ticket number and account/password to track the 
>> ticket. But it seems that nobody is working on it. 
> 
>>> There has been extensive discussion on NANAE and NANABl newsgroups on
>>> this issue.  The bottom line:  The SORBS ticket queue is handled by a
>>> group of unpaid volunteers, and there is quite a backlog.  
>>>
>>> That's why there is the automatic de-listing system in place, which
>>> requires proper host names and longer time-to-live (TTL) values in
>>> rDNS.
>>>
>>> Yes, it's a bit of work, but it beats waiting for someone to get around
>>> to your ticket.
>>>
>>> No, I'm not associated in any way with SORBS, just an interested
>>> observer and system administrator who has had to deal with listings myself.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Michael Nicks wrote:
>> Sad state of affairs when looney people dictate which IPs are "good" and 
>> "bad".
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, S. Ryan wrote:
> 
>> Even worse if your ISP uses it and demands you ask the 'offender' to get 
>> 'themselves' removed.
> 
> 



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