traffic from DE to DE goes via NL->UK->US->FR

Fri Aug 4 13:57:48 UTC 2006

On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

>
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006, Andrius Kazimieras Kasparavi?ius wrote:
>
>> Just wondering if it is normal for traffic from DE to DE to flow through 
>> NL->UK->US->FR and so increase delay nearly 100 times? Traceroute here: 
>> http://pastebin.ca/115200 and there is only 4 AS, so ASPATH does not help a 
>> lot in finding such links with a horrifying optimisation. I believe there 
>> is much worse links, any software to detect this? Something like scanning 
>> one ip from larger IP blocks with icmp and comparing geotrajectoyi via 
>> geoip?
>
> You should direct the question to whereever you are a customer.
>
> These things usually happen when one party doesn't want to peer with another 
> party and the one that wants to peer, will route traffic really far away to 
> make sure that both parties are paying for the traffic, thus increasing the 
> motivation for the other party to change their mind regarding peering.
>
> -- 
> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se

...unfortunate series of circumstances... ;-)

but the bottom line is that the economics of it (almost always) comes on 
top of customer's benefit.

i have the same problem in my city, to reach some (few) networks, 
since some years now.

...but i guess in central europe (or in the central european internet - 
london/amsterdam/frankfurt/paris) you don't see that often... ;-)

best regards,

./Carlos                                               Skype: cf916183694
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