mitigating botnet C&Cs has become useless

Scott Weeks surfer at mauigateway.com
Tue Aug 1 21:50:56 UTC 2006


----- Original Message Follows -----
From: Barry Shein <bzs at world.std.com>

>  > That's all fine and dandy until you consider the
>  > international base of these things.  I'd like to see

> a meeting at the Massachussets state house probably around
> 1998 and being shouted down by this reasoning for a few
> minutes.
> 
> Believe it or not spam is not the only internationalized
> problem on this planet. There's drug trade, actual
> high-seas piracy, slave trade, phone fraud, investment
> fraud, and on and on.
> 
> So the usual snappy response is: And look how well we do
> with all that!
> 
> Well, yes, you can make the best the enemy of the good.
> But there's a logical fallacy involved in trying to
> extrapolate that to "so therefore we should do nothing".


I did not mean to shout anyone down by saying what I did 
and trying to extrapolate to 'therefore we should do 
nothing'.  I also did not mean to imply sloppy writing.  
For sure, it's more my misunderstanding than either of 
those.  Also, it was an interesting article.  I only 
meant that meatspace asskicking probably won't get us 
very far, especially in light of current intercountry 
cooperation.  Also, wouldn't it just teach them what 
countries to focus their efforts on similar to the 
context of the article?  I just hope to inject that 
there has to be a technical way to do this, rather 
than a diplomatic way as the diplomatic ways historically 
have not worked in the other areas mentioned, so they 
probably won't work here, either.  Or we have to keep 
going until one can be contrived.  Many good attempts 
have been made and there will be more to come until we 
hopefully rid ourselves of the sickness others of lower 
values force on us daily.

scott
(quickly putting on flameproof underware... ;)





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