IPv6 traffic numbers [was: Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google]
Marshall Eubanks
tme at multicasttech.com
Mon Sep 12 14:21:29 UTC 2005
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:59:00 +0200
Simon Leinen <simon at limmat.switch.ch> wrote:
> [CC'ing Stanislav Shalunov, who does the Internet2 weekly reports.]
>
> Marshall Eubanks writes, in response to Jordi's "8% IPv6" anecdote:
> > These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example.
>
Simon is correct. The numbers I quoted were for protocol 41 traffic,
and presumably more IPv6 is "hidden in plain sight" on the Internet 2
backbone.
Sorry for the confusion.
Regards
Marshall
> While I'm also skeptical about the representativeness of Jordi's
> estimates, this is a bad counterexample (see below about why):
>
> > Netflow on Internet 2 for last week
>
> > http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/20050829/
>
> > has 6.299 Gigabytes being sent by IPv6, out of a total 383.2
> > Terabytes, or 0.0016% This is backbone traffic, and would not catch
> > intra-Campus traffic, nor would it catch tunnel or VPN traffic,
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^
>
> Wrong. What you see here is ONLY tunnel traffic, because the number
> is for IPv6-in-IPv4 (IP protocol 41) traffic.
>
> Netflow for IPv6 isn't widely used yet. Our own equipment doesn't
> support it, and I don't think the Junipers used in Abilene do, either
> (someone please correct me if I'm wrong).
>
> > but it is suggestive.
>
> Yes, but it's also irrelevant, because Abilene has native IPv6, so
> there is little incentive for sending IPv6 tunneled in IPv4.
>
> > According to the graph
> > http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/longit/perc-protocols41-octets.png
> > the most I2 IPv6 traffic was in 2002, when it was almost 0.6% of the total.
>
> I would assume that that was before IPv6 went native on Abilene.
>
> > It is hard for me to imagine that the situation for commerical US
> > traffic is much different.
>
> I'm sure there's less
> > There may be similar statistics for Geant - I would be interested to
> > see them.
>
> I'll look up the GEANT numbers in a minute, stay tuned.
> --
> Simon.
>
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