Katrina Network Damage Report

Sun Sep 11 18:26:02 UTC 2005

I don't think the point is that every thing could be connected to the 
Internet but that the worry that 2 things can't be connected and ISP's get 
to charge stupid fees for a static IP and that some countries other than the 
US are severely starved for IP addresses. The reason IPv6 adoption is so 
slow is because of things like NAT so the general public has no idea of any 
IP Address shortage. Until they try to run any kind of server on the 
Internet. If my ISP can give me a dynamic IP address on DSL for 100% of the 
time, regardless of wether it changes when I disconnect, means there are 
enough to give a static IP. I finally got one it took years to get it but an 
upgrade to service includes it now. I think the broadband stuff like 
increased DSL, and Cable and Cellular are going to starve these darned 
hoarded IP's out of the US companies that hold them and finally get this 
thing done one day soon. The fact that Google is looking at is I think is a 
wakeup call to that.

Bellsouth.net isn't offering IPv6 which is crazy they should talk to google 
I guess. So where is IP6 being done? I heard in mobile - cellular data?

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Alan Spicer (a_spicer at bellsouth.net)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Iljitsch van Beijnum" <iljitsch at muada.com>
To: "NANOG list" <nanog at nanog.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: Katrina Network Damage Report

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> On 11-sep-2005, at 14:40, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>
>> And seriously, does the main assumption of v6, that every single
>> toaster out there is going to become a v6 host, really not scare
>> anyone?
>
> Nope. I guess people have other things that scare them... See subject.
>
>> Giving IP connectivity to stuff that was just not designed
>> from a security point of view .. I'm sure people have seen all the
>> stories about network printers and electron microscopes running open
>> relay smtp daemons, so when do I get to see a botnet full of
>> compromised toasters that'll burn your toast to cinders if you try to
>> disinfect them?
>
> Well, because I want to NAT some stuff (i.e., Windows XP box...) and  not 
> other stuff (the machines that I actually use) my wireless base  station 
> that is also a print server needs to accept print jobs from  both "the 
> outside" and "the inside". So far, I haven't found any spam  printouts 
> yet...
>
> In other words: 0wning random appliances isn't all that interesting.
>
> In fact, I would much rather allow access to pretty much anything  else 
> rather than a powerful general-purpose computer.
>
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