Peering VLANs and MAC addresses

Fri Nov 11 14:23:43 UTC 2005

On Nov 11, 2005, at 4:06 AM, Will Hargrave wrote:

> Randy Bush wrote:
>
>> the only stuff that makes me feel at all safe is what mike hughes
>> of linx described, or something even stricter, but i bow to mike's
>> experience.
>> and folk wonder why the grown-ups use pnis for anything important.
>
> Isn't this due to the fact their engineering scale is bigger?  
> There's little point connecting to an IX fabric if you want to peer  
> with 3 others and all of those at 10G. The assumption that big  
> carriers don't join IXs because they're somehow unreliable or toy- 
> like doesn't seem fair.

Who said "big carriers" don't join IXes?  There are plenty of  
networks who have more traffic than some "teir ones" at IXes.  Hell,  
RANDY has a presence at least one IX.

> Many folk have the highest respect for the operational efficacy of  
> membership organisations like the LINX, and that is borne out by  
> their willingness to join and put traffic across the exchanges.

Apparently those folk are not 'grown-ups'.  The 100+ Gbps passing  
over NAPs like AMS-IX and LINX are apparently just childish endeavors.

Or perhaps Randy is saying that Internet traffic in general is not  
"important"?

-- 
TTFN,
patrick