Acceptable DSL Speeds (ms based)

Wed May 4 17:26:45 UTC 2005

On Wed, 4 May 2005, Luke Parrish wrote:

>
> Andrew, traceroute is an effective tool is measuring roundtrip in ms format.

packets sent to a router are typically processed differently and with 
different priority then packets forwarded through it. This makes 
traceroute fairly unreliable.

I measure acceptable performance on the basis of the needs of my 
applications. In general I need <= 100ms rtt and little or no 
re-ordering to the counterstrike hl2 servers I play on. providers that 
can't deliver that reliably don't get my business.

> I am not looking for download speeds or standards, I have already established 
> those. Yes I agree, traceroute is not an effective tool for measuring 
> download speeds.
>
> thanks,
> luke
>
>
> At 11:18 AM 5/4/2005, Andrew Lee wrote:
>
>
>> Traceroute is not an effective measurement of performance.  Due to the way 
>> routing devices process the packets it receives, it is possible for the 
>> latency that appears in a traceroute is far higher than the latency of 
>> traffic traversing that device.
>> 
>> Luke Parrish wrote:
>>> My email was confusing since I said the word speed, I would like to ms 
>>> roundtrip for the following:
>>> *1. CPE to first layer 3 hop
>>> 2. CPE to first layer 3 upstream hop
>>> 3. CPE to layer 3 exit point of upstream
>>> *Example:
>>> Trace route to www.yahoo.com
>>> <http://www.yahoo.com/>1. 10.10.10.1 (CPE) 1ms
>>> 2. 10.10.10.254 (DSLAM)(cte) 21ms*(first layer 3 hop)
>>> *3. 11.1.1.1 (Router)(cte) 24ms
>>> 4. 5.5.1.3 (upstream interface)(level3) 68ms*(first layer 3 upstream hop)
>>> *5. 5.4.3.2 (exit point of upstream)(handoff from level3 to at&t) 94ms 
>>> *(layer 3 exit point of upstream)
>>> *Those ms values are what I am curious about. What are other providers 
>>> seeing and what are, in your opinion, acceptable ms times for a home 1.5M 
>>> dsl user...
>>> Luke
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 10:40 AM 5/4/2005, Luke Parrish wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have a good resource for acceptable speeds for home DSL 
>>>> customers?
>>>> 
>>>> I would like to see acceptable speeds from the customer CPE to the first 
>>>> layer 3 hop, the hop to the upstream  and the hop that leaves the 
>>>> upstream network.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> luke
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Luke Parrish
>>>> Centurytel Internet Operations
>>>> 318-330-6661
>>> Luke Parrish
>>> Centurytel Internet Operations
>>> 318-330-6661
>> 
>
> Luke Parrish
> Centurytel Internet Operations
> 318-330-6661
>

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
Joel Jaeggli  	       Unix Consulting 	       joelja at darkwing.uoregon.edu 
GPG Key Fingerprint:     5C6E 0104 BAF0 40B0 5BD3 C38B F000 35AB B67F 56B2