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Dean Anderson dean at av8.com
Tue May 3 18:03:06 UTC 2005


On Mon, 2 May 2005, Matthew Sullivan wrote:

> Off topic again Dean...?  Can't you keep on topic and keep the personal 
> attacks out of the list...?

Funny how its only off topic when its about your abuse.

> Dean Anderson wrote:
> 
> >ignored.  Then, in the fall of 2003, when the major open relay blacklists
> >shutdown, open relay abuse JUST DROPPED OFF TO NOTHING. And when SORBS
> >started scanning, abuse picked back up again. Well, lamely.
> >  
> >
> FYI, until mid-late 2004 SORBS did no automatic open relay scanning.
> 
>  From Day one SORBS has gone after open-proxy servers.

Ah, yes. Thats why its called the Spam and Open Relay Blacklist System.

But I will grant them that they didn't start scanning until March, 2005.

> >And we caught Matthew Sullivan THREATENING MAILBOMBING---that is,
> >threatening to spam people. As his defense, he said he didn't know that
> >mailbombing was against the AUP(!?!) And MAPS employees were caught
> >**working for spammers**, and that very SAME spammer was on the FTC
> >anti-spam panel, which was stuffed with MAPS-associated people.  And we
> >caught (several times) blacklists being used for personal vendettas.
> >There's more.  The list is long and dishonorable.
> >
> And some people use mailing lists to sprout complete and utter twaddle 
> to the world in the hope that the more they say it the more it will be 
> believed as true...  Now can we get back ontopic please?

Well, since you are the "twaddle spewer", claiming all of our netblocks
hijacked in a bald lie, I guess we know what your hope is.  But I suppose
you mean to deny having ever threatened mailbombs, above. It is
interesting that you don't actually deny it, you just imply I'm not
telling the truth.

Well, your messages to XO abuse are at http://www.iadl.org under the SORBS
listing.  People can see for themselves what sort of abuser you are.

And since you've been booted for abuse, anyone calling you an abuser is
not a personal attack, any more than calling Alan Brown a court-proven
liar is a personal attack.  That's a fact that people ought to be aware 
of.

		--Dean


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