Vonage Hits ISP Resistance
Mark Andrews
Mark_Andrews at isc.org
Thu Mar 31 08:03:04 UTC 2005
In article <a2937c33050330225673348cdf at mail.gmail.com> you write:
>
>On Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:33:49 -0800, Alexei Roudnev <alex at relcom.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Heard of a little thing called 'spam'?
>>
>> So what? You can use your car as a weapon; should we prohibit you from car
>> driving?
>
>No, but if your car doesn't have seat belts, we don't let you drive
>it. Basic SMTP lacks safety features that are needed, ergo,
>retrictions were placed on it.
Basic SMTP is fine. You all use it today. I will use it
to send this message. SMTP is not better or worse than
the postal service in identifying the sender and we have
lived with the possability of fraudulent mail for centuries.
People have this idiotic expectation that because the mail
is being delivered by a computer rather than a postie that
the identity of the sender is somehow magically authenticated.
The real issue is that it is hard to police customer machines
and it is cheeper to turn off SMTP than it is to identify,
inform and help fix customer machines. Sooner or later
ISPs will have to start doing this as the people compromising
machines have shown a long history of getting around all
the blocks put in their way. Spam is just a minor annoyance
compared to what they could potentially be doing with the
compromised machines.
>As was mentioned, my point was just that the question posited was
>flawed. SMTP isn't restricted for competition and money-making
>reasons, but because to not restrict it can have quite undesired
>implications. The question was why was one ok, and the other not. The
>answer is because of spam.
>
>Jamie
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