Cisco moves even more to china.

Fri Sep 24 00:29:42 UTC 2004

On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, Erik Haagsman wrote:

I've always personally taken anyone who said "but I'm an MCSE" with a 
grain of salt.  I've had equal respect for the A-plus and Net-Plus 
certifications, which are basically bought.

I used to have more trust in the /CC../ certifications but I find I may be 
laughing those off too quite soon.

MCSE - Microsoft-claimed Substitute for Experience.
A-Plus - The only possible grade in a pass/fail test.
Net-Plus - An accounting term for "how can we net more money with this 
bull**** certification"

Not one of the above properly teaches you how to run, say, DNS correctly 
(my opinions on the Active Directory DNS butchery notwithstanding).

I'm sure in time I'll come up with others sometime after I have to argue 
with green CC.. people who think the paper makes them infallible and prove 
them wrong with a 20-second search of cisco.com.

>
> Hmm..we're flooded by CCNA's and CCNP's that often hardly know how logon
> to a router as it is, so this will probably add a lot more, a bit like
> the MCSE craze a few years ago ;-)
> When they say training thousands of students, they're not talking
> thousands of CCIE-level specialists that actually know what they're
> doing.
> If anything it looks like we should feel sorry for people working
> production for Cisco since it looks like production will be completely
> based in China in the not too far future.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Erik
>
> On Fri, 2004-09-24 at 01:49, Nicole wrote:
>>
>>  Lovely, Just lovely. Just heard On CNN, Lou Dobbs. (but can't find it on
>> their site)
>>
>>  During a Beijing news conference John Chambers (Cisco CEO) Says "We believe in
>> giving something back and truly becoming a Chineese company."  "China will
>> become the IT center or the world" "China will become the largest economy in the
>> world."
>>
>>  CNN Reports: Cisco is investing 32 Million into Changi and is training
>> 10's of thousands of Chineese university students in Cisco technology.
>>
>>
>>  So.. I guess we will be cranking out those H1b's...Plan to kiss your raises
>> and or jobs bye bye to some specialized cheap imported Cisco trained networking
>> person from China.
>>
>>
>>  *SIGH*
>>
>>
>>   Nicole
>>
>>
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