Finding information about metro private line service in downtown SF

Roy garlic at
Thu Oct 28 02:41:29 UTC 2004

Oops Forgot my Sig

 Roy Engehausen

Roy wrote:

>I have used PacBell's GIGAMAN service at a number of locations.  Its
>basically "managed" fiber running GigE.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-nanog at [mailto:owner-nanog at]On Behalf Of
>Bill Garrison
>Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 7:32 PM
>To: nanog at
>Subject: Finding information about metro private line service in
>downtown SF
>I am investigating the options for linking up a new office to our
>(coincidentally) close datacenter in downtown San Francisco.  Both
>locations are SOMA and within about 10 minutes walking of each other.
>Calling SBC provided me with a rather clueless person telling me all
>about ATM, Frame Relay and other options I don't want.  To his credit,
>I believe I may have been defining what I want incorrectly.
>Since both areas are well within the same LATA (do people say that
>anymore?) I am simply looking for some sort of private line service be
>it fiber or copper.
>Who are the providers local to the area?  Is there any way of finding
>what is in the ground around me? (I know UPN Networks is in between
>our offices so I am confident there is fiber or copper all around us.)
>What are the easiest options for this sort of thing?  What kind of
>pricing might we be looking at?
>To give some perspective, we push a significant amount of bandwidth
>through our datacenter such that if the costs work out we would prefer
>a private line into our datacenter (for many reasons including cost,
>internet speed in the office, ability to have a backend entrance to
>our network for "offsite" backups, etc.).  We would also then just
>setup a DSL line or T1 for emergencies/failover.[1]
>Please reply offlist, thanks for any insight,
>[1]: Our alternative is too just get a T1 with a DSL for manual
>failover but piping into our datacenter would provide a substantial
>number of benefits. (this is a small office with about 10 people all
>of whom can handle cold-swapping to DSL if ever needed...)

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