Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

albertpublic at hushmail.com albertpublic at hushmail.com
Sun Mar 14 22:37:38 UTC 2004


Greg,

Let me spell it out crystal clear so you can understand.  Are you, or
are you not, the Gregory 
Taylor referenced in the URL's I sent below?

Albert P.
(signing his real name so Susan won't remove him from the list)

>maturity in its purest form.
>
>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>From: <albertpublic at hushmail.com>
>Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:17:42 -0800
>
>>
>>I've noticed a number of shining stars in the network engineering
>industry
>>have graced us 
>>with their presence and infinite wisdom in the past few days, including
>>Gregory Taylor.   I 
>>can't help but wonder if this is the same who launched multi-gigabit
>>DDoS attacks against 
>>IRC servers and major ISP's recently:
>>
>>http://www.geocities.com/osek_owned/
>>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=osek
>>
>>Coincidence?  You decide.  Better yet, call his mother at 1-253-
>475-1227,
>> and let her know 
>>you don't approve of his hacking activities.  If enough of us put
>the
>>pressure on, it's possible 
>>he'll be grounded, and his computer priviledges will be revoked.
> It's
>>happened before, it can 
>>happen again.   
>>
>>For those of you wondering, "Xpert Web Builders" (XWB.COM) is bogus.
>> They don't operate a 
>>network, they're a sole proprietorship tech support and web dev
>group,
>> run by some clue-
>>challenged kids who don't even have the cashflow needed to invest
>in
>>a post-paid cellular 
>>phone.
>>
>>Then there's Andrew Kirch, aka "trelane", who just published a
>fascinating
>>(albeit highly 
>>technically inaccurate, and bearing little or no basis in reality)
>>
>>whitepaper on the "script kiddie culture":
>>
>>http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/02/28/0130209.shtml
>>
>>Only problem is, he hangs out on EFNet in #sigdie, a channel known
>in
>>security circles as a 
>>place where large-scale DDoS attacks, usually involving 1000's
>of 
>>drone nets or otherwise compromised machines,  are coordinated.
> Takes
>>one to know one, I 
>>guess.  The fun doesn't stop there: he's publicly admitted to helping
>>
>>packet IRC servers before!       
>>
>>I'm still working on building a rap sheet on Kirch's friend, Brian
>Bruns,
>> and their "Summit 
>>Open Source Development Group" (which, by all accounts, is a 
>>legitimate-looking front for their not-so-legitimate activities).
> If
>>anyone has any info, mail 
>>me privately, and I'll summarize.
>>
>>
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