Packet Kiddies Invade NANOG

Sun Mar 14 02:28:47 UTC 2004

maturity in its purest form.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: <albertpublic at hushmail.com>
Date:  Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:17:42 -0800

>
>I've noticed a number of shining stars in the network engineering industry
>have graced us 
>with their presence and infinite wisdom in the past few days, including
>Gregory Taylor.   I 
>can't help but wonder if this is the same who launched multi-gigabit
>DDoS attacks against 
>IRC servers and major ISP's recently:
>
>http://www.geocities.com/osek_owned/
>http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=osek
>
>Coincidence?  You decide.  Better yet, call his mother at 1-253-475-1227,
> and let her know 
>you don't approve of his hacking activities.  If enough of us put the
>pressure on, it's possible 
>he'll be grounded, and his computer priviledges will be revoked.  It's
>happened before, it can 
>happen again.   
>
>For those of you wondering, "Xpert Web Builders" (XWB.COM) is bogus.
> They don't operate a 
>network, they're a sole proprietorship tech support and web dev group,
> run by some clue-
>challenged kids who don't even have the cashflow needed to invest in
>a post-paid cellular 
>phone.
>
>Then there's Andrew Kirch, aka "trelane", who just published a fascinating
>(albeit highly 
>technically inaccurate, and bearing little or no basis in reality) 
>whitepaper on the "script kiddie culture":
>
>http://software.newsforge.com/software/04/02/28/0130209.shtml
>
>Only problem is, he hangs out on EFNet in #sigdie, a channel known in
>security circles as a 
>place where large-scale DDoS attacks, usually involving 1000's of 
>drone nets or otherwise compromised machines,  are coordinated.  Takes
>one to know one, I 
>guess.  The fun doesn't stop there: he's publicly admitted to helping
>
>packet IRC servers before!       
>
>I'm still working on building a rap sheet on Kirch's friend, Brian Bruns,
> and their "Summit 
>Open Source Development Group" (which, by all accounts, is a 
>legitimate-looking front for their not-so-legitimate activities).  If
>anyone has any info, mail 
>me privately, and I'll summarize.
>
>
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