Counter DoS

Thu Mar 11 16:48:39 UTC 2004

By "The Art of War on the Internet" I didn't mean information warfare,
that's been with us as long as there's been information and the internet is
certainly going to be a major part of that. What I am against is anyone
trying to popularize the idea of the internet as a battleground where one
uses force and deception to "gain ground". It's just another case of people
wrongly attempting to fit somthing that they don't understand into a
framework that they do understand, thereby creating a fallacy. Trying to
base a product off of a flawed idea is bound to fail but also likely be a
major irritation before it does.

GP

-----Original Message-----
From: Etaoin Shrdlu [mailto:shrdlu at deaddrop.org]
Sent: 11 March 2004 14:58
To: Nanog
Subject: Re: Counter DoS

"Pendergrass, Greg" wrote:
> 
> I can see now that it's only a matter of time before some nut writes "The
> Art of War in the Internet". I read the whitepaper, it goes on a lot about
> how defensive policies are ineffective but doesn't really say why active
> response has never been tried:

Ask, and ye shall receive.

http://btobsearch.barnesandnoble.com/textbooks/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?us
erid=2XH986JPUE&btob=Y&isbn=1581128576&TXT=Y&itm=1

I thought that someone mentioned that Mr. Forno was reputed to be on staff
with these folk. 

> Their proposition is a terrible idea and their "rules of engagement" would
> be funny instead of frightening if it wasn't serious

I note that he also has a title from last year, which seems applicable
here:

Weapons of Mass Delusion (ISBN 158961111X)

I will point out that I cannot take seriously a company (Symbiot) that
depends on a shockwave plugin to put up a web page.

Pity that they came out so aggressively; it might have been an interesting
product. Hype can kill as well as sell.

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