Peering point speed publicly available?

Adam Rothschild asr+nanog at latency.net
Fri Jul 2 05:52:42 UTC 2004


On 2004-07-01-22:35:22, Richard A Steenbergen <ras at e-gerbil.net> wrote:
[...]
> At the very least, you can tell the difference between Juniper and 
> Cisco (pos2-3 vs. so-2-3-0).

...unless you're dealing with networks who uniformly use the "p[os]"
or "so" suffix for Packet-over-SONET interfaces, regardless of what
kind of hardware it's terminating on.  In example:

  5  so-0-0-0.mp1.Weehawken1.Level3.net (64.159.1.66)  1.065 ms  0.997 ms  1.046 ms
  6  so-9-0.hsa2.Weehawken1.Level3.net (209.247.8.14)  1.563 ms  0.984  ms  1.047 ms

Hmmm.  Not knowing anything about what kind of hardware this actually
is, and judging solely from TCP fingerprinting and response behavior,
#5 smells like a Juniper and #6 smells like a Cisco.

Then there are those who use the same designator ("s") for SONET
interface as they do for serial/T1 interfaces.

Or those who make a vendor-indicative PTR entry for a PNI, then move
the link to a different platform, and don't bother updating DNS.

Or those who find it cool to have gigabit-speed /30's reverse to
something with "dsl" or "dialup" in it, out of incompetence or
modesty.

Or those who play the old "ip addr ... secondary" game on Cisco gear,
along with bogus /30's and PTR's as the primary address to lie about
link speed in traceroute replies.

Or those who are outright deceptive in what their PTR's say
vs. reality.  (Nobody on this list, of course!)

As always, DNS doesn't tell the full story.  But we're preaching to
the choir here...

-a



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