Current street prices for US Internet Transit

Mon Aug 16 20:28:38 UTC 2004

	Those problems you describe may be the providers initially and
on a on going basis, but they can very quickly become your problem.  The
SLA you have with your provider may allow for a recoup of some money
lost in the form or credits or contract termination; but in the end
money lost is money lost and I don't believe upper management would take
kindly to any Network Engineer saying "oh well" to any issue at the
provider level inadvertent or not. Your selection of provider and the
understanding of the providers network and how it will work with your
environment is paramount.

Chris Burton
Network Engineer
Walt Disney Internet Group: Network Services

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of
Patrick W Gilmore
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:51 PM
To: nanog at merit.edu
Cc: Patrick W Gilmore
Subject: Re: Current street prices for US Internet Transit

On Aug 16, 2004, at 3:15 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:

> On Mon, 16 Aug 2004, Patrick W Gilmore wrote:
>
>> What do you care which routers they use?  I've seen networks buy the 
>> most expensive routers and run a crappy network, and I've seen people

>> run stable networks on the cheap. I just want my bits to flow quickly

>> and reliably.  I don't really care if you do it on Juniper, Force10, 
>> cisco, or tin-cans-and-string.
>
> Well, with the GSR (and alike) you're paying for high MTBF, large
> buffers
> and quick re-routing when something happens, so yes, this is a quality
> issue and that's why you should care and make an informed decision.

I submit that the equipment in the network is far, far less important 
than the people running the equipment.  I repeat: "I've seen networks 
buy the most expensive routers and run a crappy network, and I've seen 
people run stable networks on the cheap."

I do not care what equipment the network uses, as long as my packets 
get to their destination reliably and quickly.  This may or may not 
place restrictions on the equipment to be used (can you get my packets 
there "reliably and quickly" on tin-cans-and-string?), and it almost 
certainly places restrictions on who runs that equipment, but those are 
the provider's problem, not mine.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick