Packet anonymity is the problem?

Joe Provo nanog-post at rsuc.gweep.net
Sun Apr 11 11:58:09 UTC 2004


On Sun, Apr 11, 2004 at 03:36:44AM +0000, Paul Vixie wrote:
[snip]
> in another thread tonight i see subjects like "lazy network 
> operators" and at first glance, those are the people you're 
> describing (who don't really care.)
> 
> however, that's simple-minded.  "because of the way tcp/ip 
> works..." is a very good lead-in toward the actual cause of 
> this apparent non-caring / laziness.
> 
> because of the way ip works, and because of the way human 
> nature works, many of the things that would have to be done 
> to fix this problem have assymetric cost/benefit.  if a 
> network provider isn't lazy, then everyone except them will 
> benefit from that non-laziness.  human nature says that ain't 
> happening.

I have heard the 'assymetric cost/benefit' rationale for the 
bad laziness (sloppiness, not the larry wall-esque 'good' 
laziness of automation) on and off the last few years. 
Similarly, I have heard about the tremendous cost of sloppiness 
and human error in terms of root-cause for networking badness 
for the past several years.

Seems that these items are related...

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