monkeys.dom UPL being DDOSed to death

Tue Sep 23 20:11:48 UTC 2003

Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:

> [Mimedefang] monkeys.dom UPL being DDOSed to death 
> Jon R. Kibler mimedefang at lists.roaringpenguin.com 
> Tue Sep 23 14:15:01 2003 
> The computer security industry really needs to figure out how to get law 
> enforcement to take these attacks seriously. It would only take a few good 
> prosecutions to put an end to these types of attacks. Any 
> thoughts/suggestions?
> 
> This is really a dark day for those of us fighting spam. I looks like the 
> spammers have won a BIG battle. The only question now is who will be the 
> causality in this war?
> 

This goes beyond spam and the resources that many mail servers are 
using. These attacks are being directed at anti-spam organizations 
today. Where will they point tomorrow? Many forms of breaking through 
network security require that a system be DOS'd while the crime is being 
committed. These machines won't quiet down after the blacklists are shut 
down. They will keep attacking hosts. For the US market, this is a 
national security issue. These systems will be exploited to cause havoc 
among networks of all types and sizes; governmental and commercial.

Windows Update may be protected for now, but it still has limitations. 
It can be killed to the point of non use. Then how will system get 
patched to protect themselves from new exploits? The problem will 
escalate. There are many financial institutions online. Does anyone 
doubt that their security can be penetrated? What about DoD networks?

There are a lot of social aspects to internetworking. Changes need to be 
made. Power needs to be allocated appropriately. A reconing needs to 
occur. All the businesses that make and spend mass amount of money due 
to the Internet need to strongly consider that there won't be a product 
if the social ramifications are solved.

Users don't want to be online and check email just to find hundreds of 
advertisements, pornography, and illegal material in their inbox. Users 
don't want to hear that they've been infected with the latest virus and 
can no longer be online until they fix the problem; usually resulting in 
money. Users don't want to hear that they can't reach site X because of 
some change in architecture. If the general masses get fed up with the 
Internet, there won't be an Internet. Millions of dollars are easily 
being lost because of malicious activity on the Internet. Millions more 
are being lost due to differences of opinion in the governing bodies of 
the Internet.

Is everyone so short sighted and greedy as to not recognize that they 
are dying a slow financial death?

-jack