Worst design decisions?

Thu Sep 18 02:01:11 UTC 2003

The scissor-jack you are referring to that comes with the 12016 also doubles
as an excellent coffee table in our office...

Nathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Solomon [mailto:ssolomon at ind.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:44 PM
To: Matt; nanog at merit.edu
Subject: RE: Worst design decisions?

The 12016 does have handles on the sides, but the documentation states not
to use them for lifting purposes.  Yeah, I laughed too, just before
realizing that bear-hugging a 16 into position takes a bit of motivation.

It is definitely one big hunk of iron (300+lbs on the shipping invoice), but
I just couldn't understand why in the @%$$ useful handles weren't provided.
On a side note, the scissor-jacks that came with them could lift a house.
Heh.  

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps167/prod_installation_g
uide09186a0080188f38.html
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 Warning Do not attempt to lift the chassis with the handles on the back and
sides of the chassis. These handles are not designed to support the weight
of the chassis, and should be used only to steady and guide the chassis
while it is being inserted into or removed from an equipment rack. To reduce
the risk of damage to the chassis and serious bodily injury, do not use
these handles to lift or support the chassis. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matt [mailto:acheron at qwest.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 5:43 PM
To: nanog at merit.edu
Subject: Worst design decisions?

Hello all,

Was doing some upgrades on a UBR7246 (to a VXR), and I got to thinking 
about short sighted design considerations.  I was curious if any of you 
had some pet peeves from a design perspective to rant about.  I'll start

with a couple.

1) Why did Cisco design the I/O controller on the 7246 with screws in 
the corner, which are very difficult to get at?  And worse than that, 
why did they not include a cheap handle on the blank in this slot?

2) Why did Cisco not include side handles on the 12000 chassis?  It's a 
heavy chassis, and I can imagine how many techs have thrown out their 
back moving that chassis around.

I've got a couple others in my head from 3Com and a couple of others, 
but I thought I'd get the ball rolling.  So, what do you think?