Sprint NOC? Are you awake now?

Tue Sep 2 18:56:27 UTC 2003

On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Nenad Pudar wrote:

> Jared
> 
> Ido not understand what you consider as problem here (the problem is not 
> the latency which is more or less normal thing for ipv6 at this time)
> "The problem" also showing on you box is that dns6 is resolved first
> forcing the connection to be ipv6 which is not something that we really 
> want at this stage.

really, why not? I don't know anyone who wants to use v6 only if v4 
connection attemts fail.

> That is why my point is that at this stage people should not have the 
> same dns for ipv4 and ipv6 site.
> 
> Does any body know what is needed in config (resolver library) in order 
> to force the client to look first in dns 4 and not dns6 ?
> 
> 
> thanks
> 
> nenad
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jared Mauch wrote:
> 
> >On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 11:32:34AM -0400, Nenad Pudar wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>Jared
> >>
> >>The "problem " with your site is that it has the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6
> >>In may case on dual-stack unix (sun) box dns6 is always resolved first 
> >>(properly) and then sometimes because of the latency (ipv6) it times out.
> >>On the other hand that prevents me from going through ipv4 connection 
> >>which is good
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >	Sounds like a sun related issue, I'm seeing no problem with my
> >other IPv6 enabled hosts.
> >
> >	eg:
> >
> >;; Total query time: 166 msec
> >;; FROM: punk.nether.net to SERVER: puck  2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8
> >;; WHEN: Tue Sep  2 11:37:44 2003
> >;; MSG SIZE  sent: 17  rcvd: 509
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >># getent ipnodes puck.nether.net
> >>2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8 puck.nether.net
> >>204.42.254.5 puck.nether.net
> >># traceroute puck.nether.net
> >>traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using :: @ ?
> >>traceroute to puck.nether.net (2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8), 30 
> >>hops max, 60 byte packets
> >>1 2001:5a0:5000:1:: 2.078 ms 1.316 ms 1.149 ms
> >>2 2001:5a0:8::1 1.648 ms 1.539 ms 1.351 ms
> >>3 viagenie.tu-3.r00.snjsca06.us.b6.verio.net (2001:418:0:4000::26) 
> >>34.631 ms 34.674 ms 34.540 ms
> >>4 tu-3.r00.snjsca06.us.b6.verio.net (2001:418:0:4000::25) 122.123 ms * 
> >>122.248 ms
> >>5 tu-840.r00.asbnva01.us.b6.verio.net (2001:418:0:2000::22) 184.074 ms 
> >>184.211 ms 184.405 ms
> >>6 t2914.nnn-7202.nether.net (2001:418:0:5000::15) 261.417 ms 245.284 ms 
> >>233.555 ms
> >>7 2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8 224.388 ms 225.100 ms 226.350 ms
> >>#
> >>
> >>I think everybody should think about using the same dns for ipv4 and ipv6
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >phat:~> getent ipnodes puck.nether.net.
> >2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8       puck.nether.net
> >204.42.254.5    puck.nether.net
> >phat:~> traceroute puck.nether.net
> >traceroute: Warning: Multiple interfaces found; using 3ffe:a00:f:4::2 @ le0:1
> >traceroute to puck.nether.net (2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
> > 1  rtr2-eth1-1.blackrose.org (3ffe:a00:f:4::1)  1.433 ms  1.509 ms  1.318 ms
> > 2  nnn-3640-tu2 (3ffe:a00:f:1::9)  84.991 ms  24.209 ms  12.557 ms
> > 3  2001:418:3f4:0:2a0:24ff:fe83:53d8  12.423 ms  15.002 ms  46.298 ms
> >
> >  
> >
> >>
> >>nenad
> >>
> >>Jared Mauch wrote:
> >>
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 05:14:49AM -0500, neal rauhauser wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>I didn't know their NOC number, puck.nether.net is down, normal phone
> >>>>  
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>	Uh, puck is fine.
> >>>
> >>>http://puck.nether.net/netops/nocs.cgi?ispname=sprint
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>channels lead to voicemail jail. Sorry to disturb your morning but its
> >>>>much easier to complete by 0600 than to have five counties worth of
> >>>>users dialing a phone right next to where you're working.
> >>>>  
> >>>>
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>	- Jared
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>-- 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Nenad Pudar
> >>IP Network Engineer
> >>TELEGLOBE
> >>phone: 1 514 868 8053
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 

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