Anit-Virus help for all of us??????

Vivien M. vivienm at
Tue Nov 25 17:36:44 UTC 2003

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-nanog at [mailto:owner-nanog at] On 
> Behalf Of Ryan Dobrynski
> Sent: November 25, 2003 12:21 PM
> To: nanog at
> Subject: Re: Anit-Virus help for all of us??????
> like everyone else, I don't have the answer. Just another way 
> of looking at it. I have learned however that trying to fix a 
> behavioral problem with technology generally doesn't work. 
> Untill "the users" in general get a little smarter about 
> thier new toy, things won't get much better.

No, the solution seems to me to increase the liability involved. If a couple
of people who neglected to take care of their computers got hauled into
court and made to pay a fine and/or spend a few weeks in a jail cell, and if
the mainstream media got to watch (and didn't take a "those poor people"
stance that makes the whole initiative look bad), things would change.

Fact is, if I don't properly maintain my brakes on my car and I crash into
something/someone, there will be legal consequences enforced with the full
coercive power of the government. If I don't properly maintain my computer
and as a result, it harms someone else (eg: by allowing others to use it for
DDoSing that other person's network), there should also be serious legal
consequences. And just like saying "Oh, I didn't know brakes weren't
supposed to last for 150000km" wouldn't be an acceptable excuse for my
poorly-maintained car harming others, neither should "I didn't know that
computers needed security regular updates" be an excuse for me to have a
virus/trojan/etc-infected computer that harms others.

Yes, this is a political solution, but this is a political and social (and
economic, to a lesser extent) problem, not a technological one. When
technology has the potential to cause harm, it (except for computer
technology) is regulated to limit the amount of harm that is done.

Vivien M.
vivienm at
Assistant System Administrator
Dynamic DNS Network Services 

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