[Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

Fisher, Shawn SFisher at Bresnan.com
Mon Nov 10 17:51:55 UTC 2003

I agree certifications are overated at best.

Give me someone with the right attitude and I'll teach him anything.

Showing the ability to get things done is the greatest skill imo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy R. McKee [mailto:tim at baseworx.net]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:48 AM
To: joshua sahala
Cc: Peter Galbavy; Richard Irving; Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland
Maine; Vadim Antonov; John Brown (CV); Nanog List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Re: This may be stupid but.. ]

On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 11:36, joshua sahala wrote:
> "Peter Galbavy" <peter.galbavy at knowtion.net> wrote:
> > Acronyms mean sh*t. When involved in any hiring process, I actively
> > avoid CCIE/MSCE/etc. laden resumes. Mentioning once, fine. Using them
> > like religious phrases is an indictation of, well, stupidity.
> certifications are often necessary to open the door - granted if you
> were architecting internetworks when many of today's certified 
> 'engineers' were still in grade school, then no, certifications are 
> probably not needed.

I consider myself one of the 'old guys' and all the experience in the
world doesn't mean &%*$&%*$ to a recruiter OR a company hiring manager
if you don't have the magic initials they've heard about behind your
name.  I was always too busy doing my 'real job' making the customers
happy so I never spent time getting 'useless' certifications or
developing networking relationships with other professionals for later

Those of you with jobs, be very careful not to be lured into that trap. 
You've got to think of your future first and foremost.  No one else

Tim McKee

> > > i'm recruiter-proof. i'm not sure i'd want anyone who wasn't.
> > 
> > Aye. I have *never* used my CV/Resume in getting a job. I still have
> > one, but it's very out of date.
> never is a long time
> perhaps it is just the fact that i am 'new' to the field, but my resume
> has gotten me all but one job, and my resume indirectly got me that one.
> my slightly bitter $0.02
> /joshua
> > Peter
> > 
> > 
> "Walk with me through the Universe,
>  And along the way see how all of us are Connected.
>  Feast the eyes of your Soul,
>  On the Love that abounds.
>  In all places at once, seemingly endless,
>  Like your own existence."
>      - Stephen Hawking -
Timothy R. McKee <tim at baseworx.net>

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