Yet more hijacked space? - deru.net

Darin Wayrynen darin at deru.net
Sun May 4 08:28:22 UTC 2003


I try to make it a habit of responding only to accusations when I can
identify the accuser, but well, it's Friday night and I have a few
minutes of time to spare.  Btw, Hushmail is great for stirring up crap
and hiding from the potential backlash.

Wonder what you will, but our space is not hijacked.  Only Networking
is Deru - always has been - some of our equipment/colo facilities are
(and have been) on the address on our AS registration.  The ins/outs
of DSS are public, you just need to dig deeper than you have - we are
not required to justify anything to you.


Personally, I think Deru has done it's part to help the Nanog
community - I seem to vaguely remember us providing the bandwidth to
the last Nanog here in Phoenix a couple of months ago, gratis, free of
charge, provided over this very ip space.


Thanks for your support in return!  Wait, you don't represent Nanog,
you represent a no-name anonymous email address...


We (including Richard Rupp) have better things to spend our time on...
Like pondering why so many "backbones" still don't source filter their
customers so we wouldn't have to play around with 500Kpps syn floods
(with randomized ips) aimed at us on Friday nights...

Ciao,

Darin




> 
> 
> Since were on the topic of hijacked ipspace, i find myself wondering
> about deru.net
> 
> 
> "Deru, the name you can trust, from people you can trust." - Quoted from
> www.deru.net
> 
> Ok, so this is the name you can trust, from the people you can trust,
>  right?  Well then, why would it appear that Deru.net, the local ISP
> you can trust is using hijacked ip space?
> 
> It would appear as if Deru.net is using:
> 
> www.deru.net has address 140.99.0.15
> 
> My handy dandy whois tool tells me this range belongs to:
> 
> 
> OrgName:    Datability Software Systems, Inc.
> OrgID:      DERU
> Address:    14982 N 83rd PL Ste 201
> City:       Scottsdale
> StateProv:  AZ
> PostalCode: 85260
> Country:    US
> 
> NetRange:   140.99.0.0 - 140.99.255.255
> CIDR:       140.99.0.0/16
> NetName:    DSS1
> NetHandle:  NET-140-99-0-0-1
> Parent:     NET-140-0-0-0-0
> NetType:    Direct Allocation
> NameServer: NS1.DERU.NET
> NameServer: NS2.DERU.NET
> Comment:
> RegDate:    1990-04-12
> Updated:    2001-08-01
> 
> TechHandle: DW19-ARIN
> TechName:   Wayrynen, Darin
> TechPhone:  +1-480-998-7237
> TechEmail:  darin at deru.net
> 
> Before this network was modified it contained:
> 
> 140.99.0.0 Datability Software Systems, Inc. NET-DSS1 322 Eighth Avenue
> New York, NY 10001 US 
> 
> 140.99.0.0      C                DSS1
>  Rupp, Richard L. (RLP39)        rich at PLUTO.DSS.COM
>    (201) 438-2400
> 
> 
> Handy dandy route-server tells us:
> 
> 
> route-server.cw.net>sh ip bgp 140.99.0.0 255.255.0.0 l
> BGP table version is 2788023425, local router ID is 209.1.220.234
> Status codes: s suppressed, d damped, h history, * valid, > best, i -
>  internal
> Origin codes: i - IGP, e - EGP, ? - incomplete
> 
>    Network          Next Hop            Metric LocPrf Weight Path
> *>i140.99.0.0       208.172.146.30                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 7136 i
> * i                 208.172.146.29                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 7136 i
> *>i140.99.96.0/19   208.172.146.30                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 i
> * i                 208.172.146.29                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 i
> * i140.99.120.0/22  208.172.146.29                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 26978 i
> *>i                 208.172.146.30                100      0 1239 11588
> 2 26978 i
> route-server.cw.net>
> 
> And once again, handy dandy whois tool tells us:
> 
> OrgName:    Only Networking Inc. (ONLY2-DOM)
> OrgID:      ONIO
> Address:    3443 North Central, 17th Floor
> City:       Phoenix
> StateProv:  AZ
> PostalCode: 85013
> Country:    US
> 
> ASNumber:   7136
> ASName:     ONLY
> ASHandle:   AS7136
> Comment:
> RegDate:    1996-09-16
> Updated:    1996-09-16
> 
> TechHandle: DW19-ARIN
> TechName:   Wayrynen, Darin
> TechPhone:  +1-480-998-7237
> TechEmail:  darin at deru.net
> 
> 
> Im finding it odd that not a single thing, other than the POC email for
> a questionable /16 and the ASN announcing questionable /16 has anything
> to do with deru.net.
> 
> 
> 
> Also, my friend google tells me this:
> 
> http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:aHJS20Er5m0C:members.aol.com/karima4483/resume_c.html+%22Datability+Software+Systems,
> +Inc.%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
> 
> smlnk: http://smlnk.com/?21ZQK6FP 
> 
> So it would appear that Datability Software Systems, Inc. was located
> in Natick, Mass, and became Penril Datability Networks
> 
> http://216.239.37.100/search?q=cache:87PPbzXONd0C:isdn.modemhelp.net/p/penrildatabilitynetworks.shtml+Penril+Datability+Networks+&hl=en&ie=UTF-
> 8
> 
> smlnk:http://smlnk.com/?08DJKDW3
> 
> It now appears that Penril Datability Networks was split up, with thier
> assets being aquired by Bay Networks, and Access Beyond.
> 
> http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:jSOOHJ6s9fkC:www.cgraphix.com/39_detail_clients.html+Access+Beyond+%2BPenril&hl=en&ie=UTF-
> 8
> 
> smlnk: http://smlnk.com/?UHXEPYDC
> 
> That leaves us with Access Beyond, a manufacturer of remote access telecom
> products.  And whose website is now owned by a cybersquatter.
> 
> 
> Now the question at hand is, at which point did this hardware company
> become Deru.net, the Internet Service Provider you can trust? was this
> before, or after Penril Datability Networks Inc/Bay Networks/Access Beyond.?
> 
> Did everyone decide to move to arizona and start an ISP? or is this just
> another example of IP hijacking that we all find ourselves taking a look
> at.
> 
> Can deru.net provide documents that say they bought or were aquired by
> Datability Software Systems, Inc/Penril Datability Networks/Bay Networks/Access
> Beyond.?
> 
> There are other companies using this address space (eldosales.com) but
> they dont have the appearance of owning a possibly hijacked /16
> 
> Regards,
> 
> IP Police
> 
> 
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