Who uses RADB? [was BGP to doom us all]

Sat Mar 1 15:20:43 UTC 2003

> No, the lazy operational implementations of how people deploy BGP
> in their networks will be the downfall of the Internet. I see on a daily
> basis, wrong announcements, route leaks tripping max-prefixes, RADB
> entries that are either totally out of date, completely wrong or
> for some large organisations they don't even have RADB entries.
> sBGP may [and probably will] help with some of that but its not
> a panacea.
>
> Regards,
> Neil.

Who actually uses RADB to build filters other than Verio?  While my
experience with other providers is limited Verio is the only one (of the
ones we have used) who used RADB entries for BGP peers.

Overall it wasn't the best solution IMHO for a couple of reasons:

 - there was nothing to keep us from making bogus entries in the RADB
 - filters were only updated once a day making changes slow

This is not meant as a complaint toward Verio - I'm simply trying to decide
why we should go to the added expense of entering our routes in a RADB.  To
date I have seen no operational difference between using RADB and not using
it.

My view may very well be distorted by the fact that we are not a transit AS
:-)

Mark Radabaugh
Amplex
(419) 720-3635