Firewall stateful handling of ICMP packets

Owen DeLong owen at
Thu Dec 4 07:13:24 UTC 2003

--On Wednesday, December 3, 2003 10:53 PM -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks at 

> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:57:37 PST, Owen DeLong <owen at>  said:
>> around.  (In fact, I'm hard pressed to imagine how a Frag needed packet
>> for an invalid session could do much of anything).
> You can use a forged 'frag needed' to stomp an existing connection of the
> victim's down to 64 byte MTU or similar silliness, but other than sheer
> "it's a packet" DDoS effects, I can't think of a malicious use for one for
> an invalid session either....

Agreed.  However, the former pretty much requires knowledge, a lot of 
or a really lucky set of guesses.


If it wasn't crypto-signed, it probably didn't come from me.
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