The in-your-face hijacking example, was: Re: Who is announcing bogons?

Wed Apr 30 22:20:28 UTC 2003

Exactly, and I'm not sure what the whole reason for this thread is with
the exception of I do understand if the space is previously announced.  If
the requirements for arin are met and if arin makes the appropriate
changes to the whois records isn't that enough?

Obviously, making anouncements can be more complex than that ie a customer
has company A ip space but buys service from copmpany B so they wish to
announce a's IPs through B.  If swip or rwhois data matches again this
should be ok assuming someone refered to as a contact makes the request.

If someone uses company B's network to announce for company A IP space and
A hasn't updated whois or doesn't authorize such advertisements then
provider B should and I'd think must with draw announcements of company
A's space.

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Majdi S. Abbas wrote:

>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:34:07PM -0400, Kai Schlichting wrote:
> > In light of the recent hijackings, any customer coming in the door with
> > a /16 or with purported IP space located in a /16  that has been recently
> > updated, but not routed, should be given the full royal treatment of a
> > background check: Pull over and show us your state incorporation certificate
> > and your seal...and dare you if the corporation is listed as "inactive"
> > with the state, or the incorporation date is past the date the space was
> > registered, or you don't have the paperwork showing your legal successorship
> > to such corporation.
>
> 	Given that lots of companies reincorporate fairly often, typically
> to change where they're incorporated, what type of corporation, etc... I
> don't find this terribly compelling.
>
> 	It's just as easy to forge a bill of sale as it is these other
> forms of documentation.  Same problem, different documents.
>
> 	--msa
>