Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp

Tue Apr 29 14:51:08 UTC 2003

Stephen

And in the event the owner can't be contacted? And if contact is
successful, and the owner says "I'm just holding on to it because I like
have 10 /24s" or, worse, he gets the clue and just starts advertising the
space, without using it? Then we have both address space waste and routing
table bloat...

- dan

On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:

> [Should non-routed addresses be revoked?]
>
> No, but they should be watched to see if they remain unrouted and then
> try to contact the owner..
>
> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003, Temkin, David wrote:
>
> > And something else a lot of people tend to forget - just because space isn't
> > in the tables doesn't mean it's not in use.
>
> Something of a waste?
>
> > There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies (see the
> > financial markets) that require unique addressing between companies with
> > non-colliding address ranges.  10.x.x.x doesn't quite cut it.
>
> Why not? 16 million addresses arent enough? (and thats only 10/8)
>
> RFC1918 does suggest non-public intra-company networks use private space.
>
> Steve
>
>
> >
> > -DT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:stephen at sprunk.org]
> > Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:01 PM
> > To: Daniel Golding; Kai Schlichting
> > Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes
> > Subject: Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
> > to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp
> >
> >
> >
> > Thus spake "Daniel Golding" <dgold at FDFNet.Net>
> > > ARIN needs to repo any space that has [not] been advertised for a
> > > reasonable length of time, and reissue it.
> >
> > So you're claiming that ARIN should revoke any allocations, including those
> > made before it came into existence, simply because the addresses aren't in
> > the global tables?
> >
> > If that's the position of the community, that's a drastic change from
> > assertions made in the IETF WGs and may affect address allocation guidelines
> > and even some protocol work.
> >
> > S
> >
> > Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
> > CCIE #3723         "God is an inveterate gambler, and He throws the
> > K5SSS        dice at every possible opportunity." --Stephen Hawking
> >
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