Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp

Mon Apr 28 22:34:27 UTC 2003

Temkin, David wrote:
> What if Company A uses Iana-L space A, and Company uses Space A & B... What
> then?
> 
> And don't say NAT - it's not the universal savior.

   Actually, in this exact case it is -=perfect=-, since we
are , by definition, only discussing
using this for -=direct=- connections...

If we were routing it via the internet,
  it would be in the tables, and a non-issue, eh ?

However, there are scads of IANA-L,
   switch to the obscure, rather than obvious...

   For example, the DOD reserved IANA space...

(Almost no one thinks to use that...)

However, I don't suggest the Multicast reserved space....
it behaves just a little differently....

    :P

.JMHO.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Irving [mailto:rirving at onecall.net] 
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:18 PM
> To: Temkin, David
> Cc: 'Stephen Sprunk'; Daniel Golding; Kai Schlichting; North American Noise
> and Off-topic Gripes
> Subject: Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
> to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp
> 
> 
> Temkin, David wrote:
> 
>>And something else a lot of people tend to forget - just because space 
>>isn't in the tables doesn't mean it's not in use.
> 
> 
>    True.
> 
> 
>>There are companies that connect to thousands of other companies (see 
>>the financial markets) that require unique addressing between 
>>companies with non-colliding address ranges.  10.x.x.x doesn't quite 
>>cut it.
> 
> 
>     This is not an acceptable excuse to burn PI space.
> 
> There are plenty of other Iana-L available... try using an obscure one.
> 
> 
> 
>>-DT
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Stephen Sprunk [mailto:stephen at sprunk.org]
>>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 6:01 PM
>>To: Daniel Golding; Kai Schlichting
>>Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes
>>Subject: Re: Get as much IP space as you ever dreamed of, was: Re: Looking
>>to buy IPv4 addresses from class C swamp
>>
>>
>>
>>Thus spake "Daniel Golding" <dgold at FDFNet.Net>
>>
>>>ARIN needs to repo any space that has [not] been advertised for a
>>>reasonable length of time, and reissue it.
>>
>>
>>So you're claiming that ARIN should revoke any allocations, including 
>>those made before it came into existence, simply because the addresses 
>>aren't in the global tables?
>>
>>If that's the position of the community, that's a drastic change from 
>>assertions made in the IETF WGs and may affect address allocation 
>>guidelines and even some protocol work.
>>
>>S
>>
>>Stephen Sprunk         "God does not play dice."  --Albert Einstein
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