Open relays and open proxies

jlewis at lewis.org jlewis at lewis.org
Thu Apr 24 22:03:57 UTC 2003


On 24 Apr 2003, Paul Vixie wrote:

> > On the other hand, NJABL.ORG lists 255K open relays, 170K open proxies, 
> > and a spattering of dialups and other listings.  This is way beyond ACLs 
> > that I could even imagine thinking about :-)
> 
> anyone who was facile with perl could transform a full list of open relays
> or proxies into something that avibgpd could use, so that you could have
> your access controls implemented as routes rather than acl's.  if you
> combine that with policy routing so that you can blackhole traffic based
> on source rather than destination, you could get the added benefit of not
> having to take/deliver the SYN only to blackhole the resulting SYN-ACK.

But how will the average BGP speaking router deal with an additional half
million routes today or million routes in a few months?  My guess is "not
well"...or do you suggest some form of aggregation that would reduce the
number of routes but penalize the innocent for being in the same
/something as open systems?

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