IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..

Wed Sep 4 19:42:02 UTC 2002

Actually let me correct myself...
The format I think would be better is:
block	date-of-current-allocation	registry	comment/purpose

I don't want to see separate lines below like "(Formerly Stanford 
University - Apr 93)". This should be part of the comment on the same line 
and date should always be the last change, i.e.

049/8           Joint Technical Command                 May 94
                Returned to IANA                        Mar 98

should actually be:

049/8		Mar98		IANA	Formerly Joint Technical Command (May 94 - Mar 98)

On Wed, 4 Sep 2002 william at elan.net wrote:

> Yes. 256 lines is probably better, just to make it easily portable.
> 
> Also I'd like to see the list of how the ips are split between reginal 
> registries for whois purposes. For example blocks like 3.0.0.0/8 or 
> 4.0.0.0/8 have records in ARIN. I think therefore they should be listed as 
> ARIN blocks even if they are used entirely by one company.
> 
> What I'd like to see if format like this:
> block	registry	date of allocation 	comment (purpose)
> 
> And additional list which has list of all "ip registries" and contact 
> info for each one include website, whois server, etc. 
> 
> I also would like to see ICANN can put all /8 (its only 256 records) in 
> its whois server and have this information available there as well.
> 
>  On Wed, 4 Sep 2002, John Crain wrote:
> 
> > 
> > http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
> > 
> > If folks want me to split it to show 256 lines (one per /8) I can have
> > that happen.
> > Don't want to have multiple sources of the data, so for now that's
> > probably easiest.
> > 
> > I'll watch this discussion with interest. If people think something is
> > useful at the IANA level I'll do my best to make it happen.
> > 
> > _________________________________________
> > John Crain
> > Manager of Technical Operations
> > ICANN
> > 
> > crain at icann.org
> > 1AF4 F638 4B2D 3EF2  F9BA 99E4 8D85 69A7
> > _________________________________________
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On 
> > > Behalf Of Jeffrey Meltzer
> > > Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:54 PM
> > > To: nanog at merit.edu
> > > Subject: Re: IRR listing of IANA-reserved, a question..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Wouldn't the easiest (at least short term) thing be for IANA 
> > > (or someone 
> > > else authoritative-like) to put up a text file (not that I'm 
> > > really sure 
> > > how many blocks this entails) available via http or ftp for people 
> > > to periodically wget, etc.
> > > 
> > > Surely IANA, ARIN, or someone else has some type of up-to 
> > > date database that they could script, etc to generate this file?
> > > 
> > > On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 06:36:04PM -0700, John M. Brown wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > First, standard disclaimers..
> > > > 1.  This is a technical email.
> > > > 2.  I'm not speaking for any organization, other than ME.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > In the last 72 hours I've seen over 3GB of data hit a 
> > > network I play 
> > > > with with source IP's of IANA-RESERVED space.
> > > > 
> > > > Various people have reported seeing IANA-RSERVED get 
> > > announced via BGP 
> > > > at different parts of the net.
> > > > 
> > > > Various people maintain lists of IANA-RESERVED space and other such 
> > > > "special use or reserved" prefixes.
> > > > 
> > > > These lists are used by others to generate filters, ACL's and the 
> > > > like.
> > > > 
> > > > When IANA allocates a new prefix to a RIR, these lists have to be 
> > > > updated manually.  Sometime after the space has been put 
> > > into service 
> > > > and someone complains.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Give the above, would it make sense for:
> > > > 
> > > > A) The IANA to maintain a IRR/RADB type database that would allow
> > > >    for the auto generation of filters and ACL's based *purely* on
> > > >    RESERVED IANA space.  No other prefixs would be listed.
> > > > 
> > > > or
> > > > 
> > > > B) For one or more of the RIR's (APNIC, ARIN, LACNIC, RIPE, etc) to
> > > >    maintain such a database, again only IANA-RSERVED space.
> > > > 
> > > > or
> > > > 
> > > > C)  One of the existing well known IRR/RADB's to maintain the db ?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > If such a database was available, would YOU use it ?
> > > > 
> > > > Would it help your network operations?
> > > > 
> > > > Would it be of a possitive or negative nature to your network?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Lets try to stay away from the obvious potential flames and other 
> > > > religous statements.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you.
> > > > 
> > > > John Brown
> > > > Speaking a single person
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 