Risk of Internet collapse grows

David Diaz techlist at smoton.net
Thu Nov 28 14:27:09 UTC 2002

Well, it seems the national news medias picked up on this story.  How 
us "geniuses" re-engineered the internet into a few points that could 
be knocked out, killing the internet.  The explanation used a bad 
analogy to explain it to the public.

As already mentioned a lot of bad assumptions were made, and now we 
will be questioned based on those assumptions.

There has to be a better way for us to play devil's advocate without 
media feedback.

Happy Thanksgiving.


At 0:17 +0000 11/28/02, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Sean Donelan wrote:
>>  On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 sgorman1 at gmu.edu wrote:
>>  > The full paper is available at:
>>  >
>>  > http://whopper.sbs.ohio-state.edu/grads/tgrubesi/survive.pdf
>>  >
>>  > password: grubesic
>>  >
>>  > It was posted on the www.cybergeography.org website with the password,
>>  > plus I'm sure Tony would like the feedback.
>>  Was this paper peer reviewed ?
>>  I'm interested in the problem, but this is not the paper.
>Not -the- answer but a part of perhaps. I think the paper helps in 
>of the maths and processes behind the concept
>>  AT&T's network is the most vulnerable? While Onyx is among the least
>>  vulnerable?  Onyx is bankrupt, and their network is no longer in
>>  operation. I guess you could argue Onyx not vulnerable any more.  This
>>  paper starts out with some bad assumptions, such as there is one NAP in a
>>  city, one path between cities or the marketing maps in Boardwatch are
>>  meaningful.
>It does mention there being more than one NAP...
>Its also highlighting a point about increased resiliency through 
>mesh redundancy
>and it does acknowledge differences of scale.
>>  Until we figure out how to collect some meaningful starting data, we
>>  can't draw these types of conclusions.
>And therein lies the problem! Plenty of room for theorising tho!


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