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dts at senie.com
Wed Nov 20 01:08:35 UTC 2002
At 06:57 PM 11/19/2002, Jim Hickstein wrote:
>A steam-generating plant I once toured (another story) used number _six_
>fuel oil. I asked, "Is that the stuff that comes in blocks?" I thought I
>was being funny. The reply: it's delivered and kept hot in an underground
>tank, else it "starts to get kind of glassy".
The building where I lived in NYC when in high school switched from using
Con Edison steam to boilers and oil storage. My father oversaw the project
for the co-op board. The system ran on #6 diesel. It's even worse than you
System had to be started on #2 fuel oil. Once running on #2, the boilers
were able to apply heat to the warming coils in the fuel storage tanks. The
fuel must be kept warm or it becomes the consistency of jelly.
The boilers can NEVER be shut down now. There are multiple boilers so at
least one should always be able to heat the tanks.
Oh, and you have to be careful to monitor the temperature at which the oil
is delivered. If the temperature is wrong, you can be over or under charged
for the oil (delivered by the gallon, metered at the truck, temperature
This is NOT the oil you want to use for your generator.
My vote is for natural gas, which is easy to obtain in the street in NYC.
If the gas lines get interrupted, what are the chances your fiber ducts are
still intact? Gas has no on-site storage, cleaner burning, etc.
On the water storage subject, every building over a few stories has water
storage. Street pressure will get you 6 stories at best. Past that, you
need pumps. Tanks are filled by pumps in the basement, and the water used
for domestic purposes. Some buildings have the hot water generation on the
roof too, along with the expansion tanks. When pipes burst in the walls
(happens too often in the building where I grew up) it's really a mess.
Power failures suck, as you wind up without water.
Are we far enough from a topic yet?
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