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Fri May 24 21:23:47 UTC 2002

Richard Irving wrote:

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> << Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>>And remember, Einstein probably wasn't right:).
>>
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> 
>  What, God -does- play dice ?  ;)

Actually, yes, God does ;)

(See Bell's theorum and its tests, which grew out of Einstein's attempt, 
known as EPR after the authors, to show that the uncertainty in quantum 
mechanics was not intrinsic, but instead only due to a lack of 
knowledge. This viewpoint is only tenable now if you throw out causality.)

(General Relativity is another matter; so far it has passed every test.)

Regards
Marshall

> 
> 
>> I also recall that the
>>popular myth that he failed math classes as a child is cincorrect.
>>
> 
> Like I said, -=<*]Wild Duck[*>=-:
> =================================
> 
> Excerpt: Einstein hated the academic
> high school he was sent to in Munich, where success
> depended on memorization and obedience to arbitrary
> authority. His real studies were done at home with books
> on mathematics, physics, and philosophy. A teacher
> suggested Einstein leave school, since his very presence
> destroyed the other students' respect for the teacher.
> 
> http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/early1.htm
> 
> Except:  But he was an independent thinker and
>          hated the regimentation of the
>          German school system. To Albert,
>          schools were like barracks and
>          teachers like military commanders.
> 
> http://myhero.com/hero.asp?hero=einstein
> 
> Excerpt: The strict discipline of German schools did not appeal to the
>   young Einstein, who was a poor student but conducted his own studies
>   of philosophy, math, and science. 
> 
> Excerpt: Albert stayed behind to continue his studies, but soon left school with no diploma to rejoin
> his family. He continued his independent studies, teaching himself calculus and higher scientific
> principles. 
> 
> http://search.biography.com/print_record.pl?id=14539
> 
> Excerpt : He studied mathematics and physics at the 
> Swiss Polytechnic Institute in Zurich. He constantly failed math.
> 
> http://www.norfacad.pvt.k12.va.us/project/einstein/History.htm
> 
> Excerpt:  In 1894 Einstein's family moved to Milan but Einstein remained in Munich. In 1895 Einstein
> failed an examination that would have allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
> the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich.
> 
> By mid 1901 he had a temporary job as a teacher, teaching mathematics at the Technical High School in
> Winterthur. Around this time he wrote:- 
> 
>     "I have given up the ambition to get to a university ... "
> 
> http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Mathematicians/Einstein.html
> 
> And Finally, in his own words, Excerpt:
> 
>  "Mistrust of every kind of authority grew out of this
> experience, a skeptical attitude toward the convictions that were alive in any specific social
> environment-an attitude that has never again left me, even though, later on, it has been tempered
> by a better insight into the causal connections. "
> 
> http://www.stcloud.msus.edu/~lesikar/einstein/freethink.html
> 
> Lets -not- rewrite history to appease the "Moral Majority", 
> 
>        Who are most likely NEITHER.
> ========================================================
> <LURK  P-L-E-A-S-E... PRETTY PLEASE... Aww... C'mon>
>  
> 
>>Hmm, if we're not careful our list will degrade from operational to my
>>relativistic mass is bigger than your pc based relativistic mass:).
>>
>>On Fri,
>>24 May 2002, Robert Beverly wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, May 23, 2002 at 11:17:11AM -0500, Richard Irving wrote:
>>>
>>>>Einstein wouldn't have made it anywhere, without his
>>>>background in Mathematics that he got from a Prominent Ivy League...
>>>>
>>>> Oh...... Shoot, did it again.
>>>>
>>>>Have you ever heard the expression "Flat World Thinking" ?
>>>>
>>>>Einstein was a Hero to many a Kid, -because- he was self taught.
>>>>
>>>Einstein graduated from the prestigious Swiss Federal Polytechnic
>>>college in Zurich.  His work on relativity was done afterward, at
>>>the Swiss Patent office, while folks at Harvard were still searching
>>>the Ether.
>>>
>>>A college degree is certainly not a prerequisite for intelligence, but
>>>can often provide inspiration, even if that takes the form of a
>>>dissatisfaction with the prevailing thinking.
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>
>>>rob
>>>

-- 
                                  Regards
                                  Marshall Eubanks

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