How to get better security people

Tue Mar 26 16:59:34 UTC 2002

Jason,

I don't know where you get your information, but E*Trade hasn't laid-off
their network security department.  In fact, we're currently adding to it.
I know there are some good network security experts on this list so if
you're looking for a position then send your resume my way.

Jay Fielding
E*Trade NetOps

-----Original Message-----
From: LeBlanc, Jason [mailto:Jml at ebay.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 11:28 AM
To: 'Sean Donelan'; nanog at merit.edu
Subject: RE: How to get better security people

On that note, Etrade layed off their entire net sec team a few months back.
I don't trade there no more. ;)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean Donelan [mailto:sean at donelan.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 7:05 PM
> To: nanog at merit.edu
> Subject: How to get better security people
> 
> 
> 
> 
> According to a recent salary survey telephone companies have some
> of the lowest paid information security professionals in comparison
> with other technology corporations, federal government, or financial
> companies.  When the US Transportation Security Administration (aka,
> the agency in charge of airport screeners) is paying their computer
> security people more than telephone companies, its hard for phone
> companies to attact top security talent.
> 
> Customers need to let companies know that security and responsiveness
> affects their purchasing decisions.  I think some companies 
> are getting
> the message.  But in today's market, with tight budgets and layoffs,
> security is often viewed as overhead.  A lot of providers are lucky
> if they have one network engineer who does security stuff in her spare
> time.  Full-fledge security departments are rare.
> 
> 
> On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Eric Whitehill wrote:
> > UUNet, by far is the best.  I've had mixed results with 
> Sprint.  A couple
> > of years ago I had to deal with Hurricane Electric and the 
> tech was really good about
> > it - he added in the ACL I needed right over the phone.
> >
> > Also, I know of a couple  providers in the upper midwest 
> that are pretty
> > good at working with DOS stuff.  Email me off list if you are
> > interested.
> 