KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.

Thu Jun 6 14:07:09 UTC 2002

As a lot of people are offering secondary services: may be it's a good idea
to place infrastructural services at IXP. IXP seem to be more stable than
any ISPs and often more neutral than ISPs.

Comments?

Arnold
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Hello,

DENIC runs currently several secondarys (not only DE but also for some
other TLDs) in different places worldwide. We are willing to offer
secondary service for other ccTLDs. But there will be because of
security/stability reasons a limit on the number of ccTLDs we want to run
on a single machine.

Sabine

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On Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:08:46 +0200
Joao Luis Silva Damas <joao at ripe.net> wrote:

>
> At 11:04 -0700 5/6/02, Randy Bush wrote:
> >  > Given the current situation of KPNQwest and the possibility
> >>  of its services going offline sometime soon, the RIPE NCC in
> >>  agreement with KPNQwest will be temporally hosting this
> >>  server (ns.eu.net) in its premises.
> >
> >nice emergency hack and sorry to whine.  but i used them both
> >to get diversity.
>
> Hi Randy,
>
> there are 16 ccTLDs for which ns.ripe.net and ns.eu.net are both
> secondary. So we will definitely request those ccTLDs to look for a
> new host as soon as possible.

Hi Randy, hi Joao, dear routing-wg,

probably my Company (GATEL, AS13129) is able to host a secondary
server for the ccTLDs.

The question is rather what are the hardware "requirements" for the
secondary
server.

We have sufficient bandwidth capacity available and rack space as well.

> The rest can take bit more time to think what they want to do since
> ns.eu.net will keep running.

Well done ! Congrats for the good ideas and coordination work.

>
> We are offering secondary service on ns.ripe.net for any ccTLD that
> we weren't sencodaring for, as are other people.
>
> The idea is not to have ns.eu.net running for ever, just to enable
> people to have time to take rational decisions, without the fear of
> having the server going away because of some unexpected turn of
> events.
>
> >
> >when in less of a panic, please move it to moscow or something.
>
> Panic? what panic? this is just common sense
>

right. it's not panic.

--jan

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